Category: Cell Phone Talk
Hello All Question for you android users out there I currently have an LG Motion with MetroPCS, and was wondering if they were ever going to release an upgrade to Jellybean or even the newest Kitkat? If not, any recommendations of a new phone I should get? Thank you in advanced
it looks like LG drop the ball on this phone and left it at 4.0 icecream sandwige. if you have some money to spare then a nexis5 will do you quite nice, if not then the LG G2 is a nice phone. I have it but would not traid it for anything less then a nexis5. The galaxy S4 just got its 4.3 upgrade that might just be the way to go for you. You could look into the note III, its accessible but again its pending on what your budget allows.
Only problem is my carrier does not offer these phones. Here is a list of the phones I can choose from: http://www.metropcs.com/metro/category/PhonesandMore/Phones/cat170019
Would it hurt to keep the LG Motion? I love it for what it is. It is an awesome phone. And I am happy with it.
And as far as my budget, it is a tight one indeed.
no it would not hurt to keep your phone, I would find a custom rom and upgrade it.
You lost me there, bud. A custom rom? Please explain.
Hi, a custom rom or “after market rom” extends a android mobile device when the carrier and manufacture drops support and android updates for set device. If the XDA Developers, see link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ supports your device your in luck and can get the latest and greatest android if not your totally screwed. So how do you install a custom rom after you have found the one that matches your device? Well here is how and there are a few ways, via the command line using the “android debug bridge” to push the files to your device. 2. You could look for chain fire “XDA Developer” who makes a one click method to root “gain admin rights” to your device. When you root your device you can get rom tool box pro or rom premium manager to finish the rest of your rom install. These apps will let you install a rom eyes-free other than using the command line to install a rom. Lastly, you need a pare of eyes for this, power off phone, boot into the recovery, “make sure your have a custom recovery on your SD card” and then have your sighted help look for “install zip”. Next your friend or relative will need to use the volume keys to move up or down in the list and use power to select install zip, find where your custom recovery file is located and then press the power key to start the install. Now wait for the install to finish, back out of your SD card and do not reboot, now go back to install zip, install the rom you downloaded and make sure you have the “Google apps file” or “Google apps” on your SD card and do the same procedure you did for the custom rom. Note; do not reboot your device at any time during these steps, when your done go back to the main menu and reboot watch as your android device is updated to the latest android no thanks to your carrier.
Totally lost me here. Mind swapping Skype names or something and setting up a time to chat via Skype or something? Is there a way you could remotely do this for me? Thanks for all of your knowledge by the way.
yes I can Skype you and no I can not do a remotely because the way I did my former galaxy S3 was through chain fire and rom tool box pro
Do not even know what that is, but awesome. Thanks for your help.
chain fire is a tool that roots the device, and flashes a rom with root "admin" rights on a phone or tablit. Rom tools box is an app that lets you manager your device, clean the cash, look at the guts of your phone and install a later android then your phone currently has if there is a rom a "A rom is the file that has your OS and files needed to run your phone".
If you don't know what a ROM is, if you don't know what rooting a device means, and the risks involved, you shouldn't be doing it, period. If you don't know what any of this means you shouldn't be jailbreaking an iPhone either or in the old days be visiting CrackBerry.com and custom booting that device either.
My wife and daughter use Android devices without rooting them.
Anyway it's entirely irresponsible from a technical perspective to over and over recommend rooting a device when the user here is saying they don't even know what that means. I've seen that also on jailbreak forums with the iPhone so spare me getting your shorts in a knot about your pet Android. To most of us, Android is just another viable OS alternative for phones, the little brother to Chrome OS / Android for Tablets. If you treated it like an operating system and not a pet, you would acknowledge the difficulties for users before getting them to root devices, void warranties and such.
Unless you personally want to take full and entire responsibility for whatever happens to the user, especially as they root their device and open it up to the known universe, without understanding how to safeguard things.
I repeat, if you don't know what a ROM is, if you don't know what root is, if you don't know what master privileges mean, if you don't understand the difference between how a phone typically works and what happens when you root a device and set up your own custom ROM, you shouldn't do it. If you really want a custom ROM for its exclusive custom features, get someone who does know to help you.
Hint: That someone will be all about the practical and explain to you about getting your data safely backed up. real technical help comes with no dogmas attached.
And I've said the same on Jailbreak threads also, so again, leave the panties in a wad at home and the sulk about people hating Android outside. I don't dislike Android. For disabled and non-disabled users alike it has come a long way. Is it fragmented? Yes. But that is because it can run on almost anything. Show me some hardware it can't run on. lol. That's how the system works, and manufacturers do exploit this just as they do Windows and did Windows Mobile 6.x and before. Exploit doesn't mean wrong either, but it can reduce what you get for accessibility.
That's above is just for the dogma centric. I don't care what OS you're running on your phone: don't root it, don't custom flash it from a source on the Internet somewhere or Torrents, or anything like that unless you understand what that means. And don't recommend people do it when over and over they say, "I don't know what that is."
Sure, if you want, take them through what it means, what root is, what admin rights are, what open ports mean, what SSH is, and all of that sa far as they want to learn. But to me this is no different from guys I went to high-school with who would lower the suspensions on their car with virtually no mechanical experience, and end up ruining the shocks and a lot of other parts to boot. Saw that a lot in the 80s, and I wonder how many landfills are full of the leftovers from that one.
The exception to this is if you personally want to assist them in doing the custom ROM, you take over and manage the flashing at the root level, you reestablish normal user privileges when done and the user is left with a normal Android device with your custom ROM you are doing them a service if that is what they want. But they shouldn't, if they don't know how, and they have to use that phone in daily life.
Personally, I always suggest getting a knock-off tablet maybe last year's from an eBay or Craigslist sale, custom ROM that bad boy to your heart's content, if you are new. Then you have no fear of doing something to your working device. Custom job that baby until you are comfortable with it, accidentally leave ports open and maybe have to clean up a bit afterwards, we all have. But don't do this to your own phone if you never have, and you expect to depend on the device later.
I can't back down on this one: It's irresponsible to over and over suggest rooting or jailbreaking to people who are clearly ignorant. I would be pissed to find out someone tried to get my daughter or niece to do it, when they clearly know nothing about ROMs or permissions.I don't care what kind of device we're talking about, I guess I'm a bit old-school on this issue.
I have rooted my GS# many of times, bricked it and revived it, sold the phone with a 4.3 custom rom. The ariginal poster asked me how they would go about updated their device, some research was done and there is no official rom for his device. So set user asked me "how do I install a custom rom", I explained how, on XDA developers they even warn you about rooted and changing a rom if your not sure about it. If Set user did not ask me, I would have never brought it up at all!. The fact remains the poster of this board asked and I answered him flat out.
I may have got some of this wrong then, but what I saw was a user who clearly doesn't seem to have the same technical skill that you do being advised to go out to these sites and update a ROM, when they probably don't know the difference between user and superuser or what admin rights even look like on a phone, or why factory devices don't ship that way.
So maybe in part I am wrong, but I think it is in error to just send basic users off to forums and web sites. Time and again I hear from people in various forms who have done this and said they can't make sense out of what is worth doing and what isn't.
Maybe I am being a fuddy duddy, maybe I am being old school. I just find that to be irresponsible and that goes for Microsoft telling people this very thing: look at our communities (where you will see a zillion responses and won't be able to sort out which is valid unless you already know what you're talking about).
I don't know what the answer is, but I find sending basic users off to sites like that a bit like sending sheep to the wolves, to be honest. And I know lots of even the biggest companies do it. I just don't think it's right.
your cool lio and I respect your appinion. This particular user has my Skype if he wants to contact me.
Ah thanks man, and by giving him that, you're doing a lot more than even the biggest companies do.
I don't knoww as an industry how we're going to solve that problem. The long lines at free tech support phone systems of the 90s can't be right, but this online communities-based thing sure does the lesser-inclined a lot of harm in many cases. Unless someone does what you're doing, which means you're being a buddy, a great friend and helping out. I don't know how as an industry this whole thing will shake out. But anyway kudos to you and I'll stop derailing this thread now.
Yeah, I don't get it all, so I won't do any of it. This got more technical than I thought it would...wow!!!
You seem grumpy, Leo...grrrrrrufffff! LOL Jokingly talking to you dude. :)
Hope to Skype with you soon, starfly.